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UK Immigration Troll by Valendale UK Immigration Troll by Valendale
Colonize a Quarter of the World
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:icondashinvaine:
So two wrongs make a right?
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Valendale Apr 2, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
If you accept the proposition that it is somehow wrong for an immigrant to live in the UK.
Which it isn't.
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:icondashinvaine:
Right and wrong are matters of opinion and debate. Is it right that Britain be deprived of its sovereignty, and rendered increasingly less British, against the wishes of the native Britons?
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Valendale Apr 4, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
That's interesting, aren't you the one disagreeing with the sovereignty of UK immigration law?

Also what defines being British? If immigrants obtain citizenship and live on the Island of Britain how are they any less British than the grandsires of Norman invaders and Saxon barbarians and Roman colonizers?
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:icondashinvaine:
What defines being British is being recognised and accepted as such by the majority of the British. Most white Britons have most of their DNA from the people who were here before the Romans, by the way...

news.nationalgeographic.com/ne…
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Valendale Apr 4, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
That's an arbitrary criteria for what defines being British, it goes against the legal sovereignty of Britain as a nation, and you're in the minority the majority actually do recognize immigrants who obtain citizenship as citizens. Generically there's nothing unique or special about the British except maybe a predisposition to autism, possibly from centuries of inbreeding. The picts spread there genes all over northern europe btw, you could as easily say 30% of white germans are british if we're accepting that as criteria for being british.
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:icondashinvaine:
We may be similar to the Germans, but we are distinct enough that we should have our own sovereign nations. 

The widespread phenomenon of white flight from immigrant 'enriched' areas gives the lie to your suggestion that native Briton by and large accept these newcomers as their fellow nationals. (Actions speak louder than words).

As for 'arbitrary criteria', you seem to know what Britons are when you want to accuse us of having a questionable historical legacy, so spare me your cheap critical theory. As for inbreeding, it is silly to use such a term when you are talking about a millions-strong population. The term is better applied to the Muslim immigrants known for bringing over their cousins from remote villages in Pakistan for arranged marriages! 

The idea that mass immigration improves our genetic stock is ludicrous:
He [Prof Steve Jones] added: “Bradford is very inbred. There is a huge amount of cousins marrying each other there.” Research in Bradford has found that babies born to Pakistani women are twice as likely to die in their first year as babies born to white mothers, with genetic problems linked to inbreeding identified as a “significant” cause.


www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/ha…
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Valendale Apr 5, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
No I'm sorry but the genetic history of Brittanic peoples is nearly global, the Brittanic tribes spread their seed all over europe and even into the middle east and africa long before the Romans even set out to conquer Gaul. Then when Rome finally did conquer Brittania the people they conquered were absorbed into the empire and spread throughout it, not to mention waves of Roman colonists spread across Britain. The pict uprising that sought to drive out the colonists was broken, and after that the Saxons who were of Germanic origin invaded, then the Normans invaded, and by the age of British imperialism the British were stamping their boots and loins on anyone they could sail to. By your standard of what makes people British, people all across the globe have claim. You have no more claim than the next bloke who happens to have British heritage, and I've got news for you, a lot of the people with British heritage aren't white.

"The widespread phenomenon of white flight"
Is mostly driven by socioeconomic factors on all ends of the spectrum. The nasty tones of racism may be a relevant factor but they're far from the predominate factor, the real crawl is that when immigrants flood into an area there's more competition for employment and capitalists increase their rate of exploitation, and rates of poverty and unemployment increase. Add to this that many immigrants come from poorer countries, and you get poverty culture which is only profitable for capitalist exploiters. So instead of blaming brown people maybe you should seek to redress the socioeconomic system that is truly at the heart of the problem.

However the vast majority of British do in fact accept immigrants, right wing white racist reactionaries like yourself are in the minority.

"As for 'arbitrary criteria', you seem to know what Britons are"
Yeah, Britons are people who live on an Island call Britain.

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As for inbreeding, it is silly to use such a term when you are talking about a millions-strong population."
Of provincial peasants who used to marry first cousins, and the royals and nobles used to marry siblings. The rates of autism may have nothing to do with that, but it's a strong possibility.

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Valendale Apr 4, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Oh and it should have occurred to me to make this point earlier. If you're going by the "has genes from aboriginal british" argument, you'd have to include every non-white person with British or Brittanic heritage. That includes an a lot of the people from the countries Britain colonized, as you well know Britain set up brothels, raped women, and took mistresses wherever they sat boots down.
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And I thought the US was the only place with this problem.
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